Comments on: blog network owner the wussy style http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/general/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/ ...a wise man knows himself to be a fool. Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:00:02 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9-beta-1 hourly 1 By: Franky http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/general/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/comment-page-1/#comment-3307 Franky Sat, 09 Dec 2006 20:24:00 +0000 http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/2006/11/30/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/#comment-3307 Jay, you can now use <a rel="nofollow" href="http://snap.com" rel="nofollow">snap.com</a>. They provide a simple javascript which also works on Blugger. Just click the link <em>Get Preview Anywhere</em> in one of the (new) popup preview images here on the blog. Jay, you can now use snap.com. They provide a simple javascript which also works on Blugger. Just click the link Get Preview Anywhere in one of the (new) popup preview images here on the blog. View all comments by Franky

]]> By: Franky http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/general/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/comment-page-1/#comment-3185 Franky Sat, 02 Dec 2006 16:28:16 +0000 http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/2006/11/30/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/#comment-3185 The only fools are the ones who don't listen to other people but think they know everything. Trust me, I also have learned my lesson<strong>S</strong> in the past. ;-) The only fools are the ones who don’t listen to other people but think they know everything. Trust me, I also have learned my lessonS in the past. ;-) View all comments by Franky

]]> By: Mark http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/general/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/comment-page-1/#comment-3184 Mark Sat, 02 Dec 2006 16:21:15 +0000 http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/2006/11/30/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/#comment-3184 okay. let me email you before i make even more of a fool of myself than I already have!! cheers. M okay. let me email you before i make even more of a fool of myself than I already have!!
cheers.
M View all comments by Mark

]]> By: Franky http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/general/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/comment-page-1/#comment-3183 Franky Sat, 02 Dec 2006 16:07:16 +0000 http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/2006/11/30/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/#comment-3183 Oh and forgotten. The jest at David : as a regular reader I do know the story, I was already reading when David still wrote JOAB, and I personally felt that it sounded like an implicit hit at David. Maybe I am too harsh there because I also do like David and have <em>lived the whole story</em>. It is sad to say, but I do believe in <strong>occasional self-censorship</strong> on blogs. And this doesn't mean I favoritize, see therefore <a rel="nofollow" href="/2006/07/16/a-listers-forgetting-their-informative-factor/" rel="nofollow">this entry</a>. Oh and forgotten. The jest at David : as a regular reader I do know the story, I was already reading when David still wrote JOAB, and I personally felt that it sounded like an implicit hit at David. Maybe I am too harsh there because I also do like David and have lived the whole story.

It is sad to say, but I do believe in occasional self-censorship on blogs. And this doesn’t mean I favoritize, see therefore this entry. View all comments by Franky

]]> By: Franky http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/general/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/comment-page-1/#comment-3181 Franky Sat, 02 Dec 2006 15:59:33 +0000 http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/2006/11/30/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/#comment-3181 Actually I do think JOAB is/can be a wonderful blog/location. It could easily serve as a <em>Blog Herald</em>, but also overview to your own network, a blog where you don't only follow the blogosphere, but also plug some of your more interesting entries around bloggy network. Just a little more <em>loosely</em> than you would do on a <em>Bloggy Network Blog</em>. Sell it? I don't know. I think that would be the wrong thing to do and also I do think there are several possibilities to <em>easily</em> improve your whole platform. Drop me an email at (waistedlife{at}gmaildotcom) if you feel like. Actually I do think JOAB is/can be a wonderful blog/location. It could easily serve as a Blog Herald, but also overview to your own network, a blog where you don’t only follow the blogosphere, but also plug some of your more interesting entries around bloggy network. Just a little more loosely than you would do on a Bloggy Network Blog.

Sell it? I don’t know. I think that would be the wrong thing to do and also I do think there are several possibilities to easily improve your whole platform.
Drop me an email at (waistedlife{at}gmaildotcom) if you feel like. View all comments by Franky

]]> By: Mark http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/general/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/comment-page-1/#comment-3180 Mark Sat, 02 Dec 2006 15:48:08 +0000 http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/2006/11/30/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/#comment-3180 Franky, All that you say here is very fair and good advice. And I need all the advice that I can get! I still don't see how we're handing it out to David, but ah well. I definitely think you're right about comments and opening up. I'm a passionate MU supporter and would love a fan club, fantasy league et al. It's finding the time and know how to implement it. And I guess this was where the JOAB thing comes in- as buying the blog was a whim and took me completely by surprise. Suddenly my cosy little world was blown open and my happy delusions of grandeur turned into some bad trip, like I'd been transported to some fraternity party I wasn't invited to. I'm not David and don't have his ability, experience or snarky wit- so trying to replicate that would be futile. But it thrust us into the limelight when we weren't ready and now, having added so many blogs, we've just spread ourselves too thin. Plus I pay the writers per word- so the revenue incentive isn't there. Except for a couple, the pay just wouldn't justify their efforts. So I guess all this needs to change. The plan was content, then design/plugins, then open up to communities. Like I want to donate through the charities blog, have parents send in photos on parenting blog, etc, etc. We haven't even done stage 2, and yet are out there as a "network" which, as you say, is probably not appropriate- as we find it hard to even keep up with posting. Aaargh! It all sounds so amateur and that's really what it is. Would you recommend that I take down the "network" thing and develop the blogs individually until we're ready? I have finally recruited a "pro blogger" to help me oversee all this. JOAB doesn't fit into our portfolio at all. In fact, while writing this, I'm thinking that we should sell it. Heavens know why- but the traffic and revenue has gone up since August. Hmmm.. Anyway, thanks again. Waiting for MU vs Boro. Mark Franky,
All that you say here is very fair and good advice. And I need all the advice that I can get! I still don’t see how we’re handing it out to David, but ah well. I definitely think you’re right about comments and opening up. I’m a passionate MU supporter and would love a fan club, fantasy league et al. It’s finding the time and know how to implement it. And I guess this was where the JOAB thing comes in- as buying the blog was a whim and took me completely by surprise. Suddenly my cosy little world was blown open and my happy delusions of grandeur turned into some bad trip, like I’d been transported to some fraternity party I wasn’t invited to. I’m not David and don’t have his ability, experience or snarky wit- so trying to replicate that would be futile. But it thrust us into the limelight when we weren’t ready and now, having added so many blogs, we’ve just spread ourselves too thin. Plus I pay the writers per word- so the revenue incentive isn’t there. Except for a couple, the pay just wouldn’t justify their efforts. So I guess all this needs to change. The plan was content, then design/plugins, then open up to communities. Like I want to donate through the charities blog, have parents send in photos on parenting blog, etc, etc. We haven’t even done stage 2, and yet are out there as a “network” which, as you say, is probably not appropriate- as we find it hard to even keep up with posting. Aaargh! It all sounds so amateur and that’s really what it is. Would you recommend that I take down the “network” thing and develop the blogs individually until we’re ready? I have finally recruited a “pro blogger” to help me oversee all this. JOAB doesn’t fit into our portfolio at all. In fact, while writing this, I’m thinking that we should sell it. Heavens know why- but the traffic and revenue has gone up since August. Hmmm..
Anyway, thanks again. Waiting for MU vs Boro.

Mark View all comments by Mark

]]> By: Franky http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/general/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/comment-page-1/#comment-3179 Franky Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:50:11 +0000 http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/2006/11/30/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/#comment-3179 Mark, my only gripe is that if you like always to hand out (to a certain person), you also should be that fair to moderate only for spam. Especially on JOAB, Or on bloggy award, because people ask you for an opinion and you don't allow them to respond, even though most reviews have a positive tone. To be honest, I was pretty sure that my comment wouldn't make it. Don't bother about the spam remarks aso, that was (sadly) rant related. Personally I would rethink how you (Bloggy Network) continue. Let me explain. Sure spam is an issue, but a BLOG network without interaction? First this isn't favorable to create reader regularity and I can't imagine it is very interesting for the authors either. Aren't comments still the most interesting reward for bloggers? For example : why bother writing a ManU blog, if there is no interaction allowed and the blog can't build a <em>fan club</em>? If I were to write a blog about a certain team, it were to spread and SHARE my love for that team with other fans. Admitted, depending on how you reward/pay your authors, they might be interested in the numbers/stats of the blog as it improves their fees. But I personally (and I have done SEO too) am not that much interested in a blog with a huge traffic and no interaction. If I am fair to Google, the sandbox does the job automatically. My entry, resulted in a more or less unfair rant, where I let myself influence of my SEO knowledge, hence the spam and PR reflections. I also do know how to do this (and yes the software helps, but Article Submitter Pro can also be misused ;-) ). In those moments, most of time <em>I let myself go</em>, but I stay honest I think. Maybe my critic then becomes more geek [sic] than most reader's. What do I mean? At the moment, although long term reader of (not only) JOAB, I do not know <em>what</em> JOAB is. I, except SEO don't sense any <em>network</em> in Bloggy Network. Sadly. I think I could go deeper into detail, but think you get the point. Otherwise feel free to mail me. Write for a network? Sometimes, and I am not saying this was one of them, I think having great ideas and would like to join a network, or even start my own little network, but every time I know <em>my English</em> will be a burden. ;-) Long comment? Go for, I am all for interaction. :) Mark, my only gripe is that if you like always to hand out (to a certain person), you also should be that fair to moderate only for spam. Especially on JOAB, Or on bloggy award, because people ask you for an opinion and you don’t allow them to respond, even though most reviews have a positive tone.

To be honest, I was pretty sure that my comment wouldn’t make it.
Don’t bother about the spam remarks aso, that was (sadly) rant related.

Personally I would rethink how you (Bloggy Network) continue. Let me explain.
Sure spam is an issue, but a BLOG network without interaction? First this isn’t favorable to create reader regularity and I can’t imagine it is very interesting for the authors either. Aren’t comments still the most interesting reward for bloggers? For example : why bother writing a ManU blog, if there is no interaction allowed and the blog can’t build a fan club? If I were to write a blog about a certain team, it were to spread and SHARE my love for that team with other fans.
Admitted, depending on how you reward/pay your authors, they might be interested in the numbers/stats of the blog as it improves their fees. But I personally (and I have done SEO too) am not that much interested in a blog with a huge traffic and no interaction. If I am fair to Google, the sandbox does the job automatically.

My entry, resulted in a more or less unfair rant, where I let myself influence of my SEO knowledge, hence the spam and PR reflections. I also do know how to do this (and yes the software helps, but Article Submitter Pro can also be misused ;-) ).
In those moments, most of time I let myself go, but I stay honest I think. Maybe my critic then becomes more geek [sic] than most reader’s.
What do I mean? At the moment, although long term reader of (not only) JOAB, I do not know what JOAB is. I, except SEO don’t sense any network in Bloggy Network. Sadly.
I think I could go deeper into detail, but think you get the point. Otherwise feel free to mail me.

Write for a network? Sometimes, and I am not saying this was one of them, I think having great ideas and would like to join a network, or even start my own little network, but every time I know my English will be a burden. ;-)

Long comment? Go for, I am all for interaction. :) View all comments by Franky

]]> By: Mark http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/general/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/comment-page-1/#comment-3176 Mark Sat, 02 Dec 2006 05:42:22 +0000 http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/2006/11/30/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/#comment-3176 Franky, As I'm the one you're calling a "wussy" (interesting colloquialism), let me respond as best as I can to what you say. Firstly, I think you're being very unfair to Ken Nadreau re: the ASPro software. What it does is facilitate the manual submission of articles to directories, etc- that are signed up to the program, i.e: it doesn't submit to sites that have not authorized ASPro to use their site- plus most of these sites will still have the articles in admin to approve/feature/delete. Secondly, it is not a "spam tool". Where you get the content from is up to you (you should write a unique article)- just like if you're publishing a blog, so such things as plagiarism are no more or less likely than publishing a blog. ASPro just saves you time with the logging in, etc, and for all 900+ sites it still takes some 10 solid hours of submission work!! Your second point about your "unpublished comment". I have personally never seen it before, but have now read it here. Please send it to my email and let me know which post it was for, and/or submit it again and I will make sure it is published. I'm opening up that Nov. 30th post again for comments- I assume it was for that one. I appreciate that you might not like what I've written or the content, but I don't understand what you're saying in that comment or here in reply to Dan- that I'm having a swing at David. What is there that is negative about David in that post or any post in the last 10 days? I have no problem with David at all. The only thing in that post re: David is that he used to own gadzooki. And looking over the previous 10 posts, I think the only other times that he was mentioned was over a sitepoint auction, and there was certainly nothing negative in that (well, maybe some slight jest...but no malice intended). So I don't see where the mud-slinging or ungentlemanly behavior is that you refer to. Your third gripe seems to be an annoyance about predicting gadzooki will go up PR-wise. I am sorry if this comes across as arrogance. It would only be because the seller is very clever and determined, and has built some first-class inward links to the site. Then- as far as not having comments on Bloggy Award, this is really a time issue. Right now, none of our 26 blogs allow comments. The blogs are being treated as in a stage of content foundations- building up 6-12 months of information, analysis, etc- before becoming "interactive". All the blogs reviewed have submitted review requests. But down the road, I would like to open up comments in such a way that they can be replied to and given the personal attention that you do here, for instance. I don't get the Matt Cutts thing- please explain! And I have no comment re: Dan's remarks. I should like to end this long, ranting response with an offer- why not come and write on JOAB? I only do it as most of my writers won't touch it and I lost my best writer early on with all the venom thrown at us. I guess that makes us too thin-skinned and sensitive. Or in your words....wussy! Mark Franky,
As I’m the one you’re calling a “wussy” (interesting colloquialism), let me respond as best as I can to what you say.
Firstly, I think you’re being very unfair to Ken Nadreau re: the ASPro software. What it does is facilitate the manual submission of articles to directories, etc- that are signed up to the program, i.e: it doesn’t submit to sites that have not authorized ASPro to use their site- plus most of these sites will still have the articles in admin to approve/feature/delete.
Secondly, it is not a “spam tool”. Where you get the content from is up to you (you should write a unique article)- just like if you’re publishing a blog, so such things as plagiarism are no more or less likely than publishing a blog. ASPro just saves you time with the logging in, etc, and for all 900+ sites it still takes some 10 solid hours of submission work!!
Your second point about your “unpublished comment”. I have personally never seen it before, but have now read it here. Please send it to my email and let me know which post it was for, and/or submit it again and I will make sure it is published. I’m opening up that Nov. 30th post again for comments- I assume it was for that one. I appreciate that you might not like what I’ve written or the content, but I don’t understand what you’re saying in that comment or here in reply to Dan- that I’m having a swing at David. What is there that is negative about David in that post or any post in the last 10 days? I have no problem with David at all. The only thing in that post re: David is that he used to own gadzooki. And looking over the previous 10 posts, I think the only other times that he was mentioned was over a sitepoint auction, and there was certainly nothing negative in that (well, maybe some slight jest…but no malice intended). So I don’t see where the mud-slinging or ungentlemanly behavior is that you refer to.
Your third gripe seems to be an annoyance about predicting gadzooki will go up PR-wise. I am sorry if this comes across as arrogance. It would only be because the seller is very clever and determined, and has built some first-class inward links to the site.
Then- as far as not having comments on Bloggy Award, this is really a time issue. Right now, none of our 26 blogs allow comments. The blogs are being treated as in a stage of content foundations- building up 6-12 months of information, analysis, etc- before becoming “interactive”. All the blogs reviewed have submitted review requests. But down the road, I would like to open up comments in such a way that they can be replied to and given the personal attention that you do here, for instance.
I don’t get the Matt Cutts thing- please explain! And I have no comment re: Dan’s remarks. I should like to end this long, ranting response with an offer- why not come and write on JOAB? I only do it as most of my writers won’t touch it and I lost my best writer early on with all the venom thrown at us. I guess that makes us too thin-skinned and sensitive. Or in your words….wussy!

Mark View all comments by Mark

]]> By: jay http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/general/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/comment-page-1/#comment-3165 jay Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:53:28 +0000 http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/2006/11/30/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/#comment-3165 Oh darn FRanky ........ u make me sound so stupid [:P] ... well I meant how do i use read more with my blogger. And well i got it .. and modified it according to my suitability. It was damn easy. Well now i am trying to get that hoverbox. Oh darn FRanky …….. u make me sound so stupid [:P] … well I meant how do i use read more with my blogger. And well i got it .. and modified it according to my suitability. It was damn easy. Well now i am trying to get that hoverbox. View all comments by jay

]]> By: Franky http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/general/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/comment-page-1/#comment-3159 Franky Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:11:10 +0000 http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/2006/11/30/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/#comment-3159 <strong>Dan</strong>, I didn't express any opinion about the whole sale and never will as I wasn't an involved side. What I did mean was that I admire that David stayed calm over the last 10 days, 10 days in which JOAB has <em>flamed/whined</em> three times about Krug. I personally would probably have reacted if I were David. Sometimes it just is time to move on and <em>forget</em> things that happened in the past. The shop? Who cares about an affiliate shop? Haven't we all done this in our years online? <strong>Jay</strong>, <em>read more</em> means that only an excerpt of the post is shown. Just click the <em>read more</em> link to see the rest of the entry. Actually you can also use this in Blogger, do a search in the Blogger Help for <em>read more</em> (sorry I don't remember the correct tag to use anymore). The hooverbox shows the user where links in entries lead to, as well as their title. As a security specialist I find it important that links aren't hidden and people can see where the link leads to. But in the new design I will implement this differently. Dan, I didn’t express any opinion about the whole sale and never will as I wasn’t an involved side. What I did mean was that I admire that David stayed calm over the last 10 days, 10 days in which JOAB has flamed/whined three times about Krug.
I personally would probably have reacted if I were David.

Sometimes it just is time to move on and forget things that happened in the past.
The shop? Who cares about an affiliate shop? Haven’t we all done this in our years online?

Jay, read more means that only an excerpt of the post is shown. Just click the read more link to see the rest of the entry. Actually you can also use this in Blogger, do a search in the Blogger Help for read more (sorry I don’t remember the correct tag to use anymore).
The hooverbox shows the user where links in entries lead to, as well as their title. As a security specialist I find it important that links aren’t hidden and people can see where the link leads to. But in the new design I will implement this differently. View all comments by Franky

]]> By: jay http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/general/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/comment-page-1/#comment-3158 jay Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:00:57 +0000 http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/2006/11/30/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/#comment-3158 how to use this Read more link .. i am a blogger user not a word press. Plus a comment box appearing on hovering over links. how to use this Read more link .. i am a blogger user not a word press. Plus a comment box appearing on hovering over links. View all comments by jay

]]> By: Dan Zarrella http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/general/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/comment-page-1/#comment-3154 Dan Zarrella Fri, 01 Dec 2006 13:36:29 +0000 http://ifranky.com/amifamousnow/2006/11/30/blog-network-owner-the-wussy-style/#comment-3154 "And in all the JOAB mud slinging, he stayed a real gentleman too." perhaps during his time at JOAB, but during the first sale then unethical re-sale he was far from gentlemanly. also, this page: http://www.jackofallblogs.com/shop/shop.php is from before I or bloggy bought JOAB, of course the new owners wouldn't let through a comment about that either. “And in all the JOAB mud slinging, he stayed a real gentleman too.” perhaps during his time at JOAB, but during the first sale then unethical re-sale he was far from gentlemanly.
also, this page:
http://www.jackofallblogs.com/shop/shop.php
is from before I or bloggy bought JOAB, of course the new owners wouldn’t let through a comment about that either. View all comments by Dan Zarrella

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